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Aside – continuing to research my ancestors on my mothers side. First generation Italian immigrants (brothers) settled in Louisiana and fought for confederacy. One killed at Battle of Spotsylvania.
Spaceman,
I wonder what drew Italian immigrants to Louisiana.
I didn’t remember that battle so I went looking. There were almost 32,000 casualties on both sides but the battle was considered inconclusive. How horrible!
I actually have the album with this song on it. One of my students introduced me to it. I got to listen to it again after a long while-thanks!
Ya, Spotsylvania was a bloody mess. Whole Civil War was. There is some speculation that it might have been a better idea to let the South secede. Slavery would have eventually gone away under it’s own baggage in a decade or 2.
I suspect America who an inviting location for everyone
Lincoln chose to not let the South secede. The correct question is why and was it worth 600,000 lives? Slavery was terrible, but at the time Euro and South American countries were progressively shutting it down. I think it is reasonable to assume that the United States as a whole or separated would follow suit in time without the need for a major war.
Spaceman,
Lincoln also had the legality of secession and its ramifications in mind. Though the Constitution doesn’t address it in exact terms, it does reference it. Article I, Section 10 declares that “No state shall enter into any treaty, alliance, or confederation….” as well in other sections which can be deemed to reference secession. Lincoln believed the Constitution did not allow for any state to secede.
I found this and was amazed at what I hadn’t known about the writing, debating and signing of the Constitution:
Well perhaps, but would one go to war over it? Seems more sensible to simply let the Southern states go their way. Instead Lincoln sent reinforcements to Ft. Sumter, which provoked the onset of war.
Once it is allowed to happen, any state disagreeing with the federal government could just secede. The precedent would have been set.
Lincoln did not sent the reinforcements. The 85 soldiers who were at Fort Moultrie were moved to Sumter by their commander, not on the orders of the President.
September 22, 2015 at 12:38 pm
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September 23, 2015 at 11:44 am
This song popped into my head today
Aside – continuing to research my ancestors on my mothers side. First generation Italian immigrants (brothers) settled in Louisiana and fought for confederacy. One killed at Battle of Spotsylvania.
September 23, 2015 at 12:01 pm
Spaceman,
I wonder what drew Italian immigrants to Louisiana.
I didn’t remember that battle so I went looking. There were almost 32,000 casualties on both sides but the battle was considered inconclusive. How horrible!
I actually have the album with this song on it. One of my students introduced me to it. I got to listen to it again after a long while-thanks!
September 23, 2015 at 3:16 pm
Ya, Spotsylvania was a bloody mess. Whole Civil War was. There is some speculation that it might have been a better idea to let the South secede. Slavery would have eventually gone away under it’s own baggage in a decade or 2.
I suspect America who an inviting location for everyone
September 23, 2015 at 5:24 pm
Spaceman,
The number of total deaths form the Civil War is horrific.
The South had so little industry it was doomed the longer the war lasted. I never gave that idea a thought.
September 24, 2015 at 7:50 am
Lincoln chose to not let the South secede. The correct question is why and was it worth 600,000 lives? Slavery was terrible, but at the time Euro and South American countries were progressively shutting it down. I think it is reasonable to assume that the United States as a whole or separated would follow suit in time without the need for a major war.
September 24, 2015 at 11:43 am
Spaceman,
Lincoln also had the legality of secession and its ramifications in mind. Though the Constitution doesn’t address it in exact terms, it does reference it. Article I, Section 10 declares that “No state shall enter into any treaty, alliance, or confederation….” as well in other sections which can be deemed to reference secession. Lincoln believed the Constitution did not allow for any state to secede.
I found this and was amazed at what I hadn’t known about the writing, debating and signing of the Constitution:
http://www.etymonline.com/cw/secession2.htm
September 24, 2015 at 6:42 pm
Well perhaps, but would one go to war over it? Seems more sensible to simply let the Southern states go their way. Instead Lincoln sent reinforcements to Ft. Sumter, which provoked the onset of war.
September 24, 2015 at 6:59 pm
Once it is allowed to happen, any state disagreeing with the federal government could just secede. The precedent would have been set.
Lincoln did not sent the reinforcements. The 85 soldiers who were at Fort Moultrie were moved to Sumter by their commander, not on the orders of the President.
September 25, 2015 at 9:22 am
Lincolns papers indicate otherwise. But at this point, it’s all history.
http://www.loc.gov/teachers/classroommaterials/connections/abraham-lincoln-papers/history5.html
September 25, 2015 at 11:16 am
Spaceman,
You’re so right-it is all history.